I am seriously cheezed off!!!!! Have purchased 24 new 6 week old light & Coronation Sussex from breeder (who said they had been vaccinated and wormed) and a week later have lost 2 from coccidiosis. I have never had this ever. I disinfect the quarantine pens every time I use them and all my chooks have been fine - UP TIL NOW! I have given the babies their medicine (Sulpha-Quin) and they are recovering slowly. How long do I keep treating them for and will I ever be able to eat the eggs from them and when? And do I need to keep treating the older birds and if so, for how long? Can anyone give me some advice?
Post by taza's cluckers on Nov 26, 2010 9:17:56 GMT 8
Hi, There are three kinds of cocci. The ag dept will tell you that all chooks are born with it all ready in their system, healthy birds carry one or two strains. Each strain affects a different part of the intestines, problems can occur when mixing different birds from two flocks the birds with least resistance can pick up all three forms of cocci at once. Cocci spreads rapidly in wet conditions. Sulfa Quin is only effective if you follow the two days on one day off etc instuctions on the bottle, the idea behind the days off the medication is to allow the birds to start to develop their own immunity. Make sure you dont go giving extra vitamins in the water eg stock gain, boost a vit while on the medication as this actually feeds the cocci and cancels out what you are trying to achieve with the sulfa quin. Pretty sure once you stop giving the sulfa quin, the withholding is two weeks,on eggs and meat. So with time all should get better. Cheers
HI Taza`s cluckers welcome to the site and thanks for the info good one I had to purchase birds first up now I have my own nucleus stock so to speak I will only take eggs this seems to work for me as to date I am free of anything and everything I had a couple of troubles first of all when I bought in stock but I got shot of them quickly and cleaned fumigated and disinfected this seems to work Good luck with your problem Belle its a bugga when you get let down like that Trev
The big problem with cocci is it is in all soils and as as Tasa,s says there are many forms and 4- to 16-week-old chickens are most commonly affected . Just moving them from one environment to another can set it off and it has nothing to do with the breeder normaly.
I have got in new chicks as well(in the past) and they will not have developed a tolerance to the strains that are in my soils and have had to be treated . A change of diet can also reduce immunity as not all prepared mixes are the same. Witholding is 2 weeks I now only hatch chicks to give them a fighting chance . It is impossible to kill all the cocci protozoa in the soils and diet and dry conditions are the best defense.
Last Edit: Nov 26, 2010 14:24:14 GMT 8 by annieyokie
We were always taught to break in a new food line over a couple of weeks before you had them on it full time, say from starter to grower then grower to layer if your going that way, this was supposed to be less risky than just starting them on a new food in a day and keeping there gut in line no big shock. Am I correct on this line. Trev
Hi Trev I have the same thoughts on introducing different feeds like you. I start with a ratio of 50/50 then keep increasing the new food. My chicks are born and live in the nursey section in the pen with a hen which has a concrete floor and soft bedding. They live in this environment for 8 weeks and I have a pen on the grass in the backyard that they are put in for a few hours daily (mainly when i get home from work). This system works for me and i have only had coccoi once with a chick who i let have a dust bath. Cheers Linda
Thanks everybody!!!! My quarantine pens are now once again cleaned, disinfected and dry so the littlies are back in them again. Touchwood, haven't lost anymore. Thanks for the advice on using the Sulpha-Quin too Taza - that was my next line of questioning. So only time will tell if I've done everything correctly. What's a little bit more stress!
Ok - just to add to my misery!!!! Does anyone know if Sulpha-Quin is actually safe to use in egg-laying birds? On the bottle, it states that it is not to be used in egg-laying birds and now the vet tells me you are never to use the eggs from birds treated with any of the Sulphanamides group of drugs. (Hence, the drug is now under scrutiny from the Drug Board of Australia). Have I completely stuffed my chickens? The bottle states the withholding period for meat birds is 2 weeks so I don't get why you can't ever use the eggs?
Gees I hope not or we are all probably up the creek
I have doesed most of my birds at one time or another
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from a further reading on this subject there are couple of other items you can use with out a with holding time for your eggs Baycox and Amprolium 200 or if your verry quick you can still order on line at / www.myshopping.com.au/ZM890299069_Pet_Supplies
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