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Post by chickita on Dec 17, 2009 10:23:15 GMT 8
Yes its me again to pain you all! the last 4 eggs my light sussex cross has layed have had a strange wavy type shell, but today it was so much worse, do i have to worry about this she is young 10months old, she has layed pretty much everyday since her first egg, at the moment she is one of my girls with scalele leg mites, could this contribute to the eggs shells? I have seen this in parrots and its called stress lines on the egg, does this apply to chooks, also Does it have anything to do with egg binding. or is it a calcium thing? here is a couple of pictures, the normal egg is from my australorp the same age that also too has scalel leg mites (soon to be dead mites) any and all info and comments appreciated
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Post by ikbokchook on Dec 17, 2009 13:12:04 GMT 8
Hey chickita! I have aslo got quite a few eggs that look like this at the moment! Seem to get them every now and again. Mine are from my isa's - who are also the worst affected with scaly leg mites - but never really thought they were connected?! Anyway, they seem to lay these for a while, then go back to normal. Would love to hear others thoughts on it though - especially if the mites are somehow connected!
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Post by fluffychook on Dec 17, 2009 14:38:43 GMT 8
I have read that this can be caused by lack of calcium to possible illness. I would say the leg mites have nothing to do with it.
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Post by annieyokie on Dec 18, 2009 3:54:50 GMT 8
I had some like this at the beginning of this season from my L.Sussex also had flat balloon like eggs .I gave them minerals and extra shell grit and had no more.Alot of conditions are caused by a mineral imbalance. In fact any stress can cause the body to go out of balance , this can cause a need for extra vit/mineral use . I gave then some crumbled mineral block I got from the stock food shop.
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Post by linda29 on Dec 18, 2009 7:29:37 GMT 8
Hi Annieyokie I have just read last week in a chook magazine( practical poultry) from the UK about this very situation and the information in the mag said that the egg malformation is called shell shock & related to mineral and vitamin nutrition & he claims the eggs are ok for eating. Is she the last one to get what ever yummy scraps are left? or the last one to eat in the pecking order?. This mag has pictures of various shell shocked eggs and I got it at midland newsagency. Cheers Linda.
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Post by linda29 on Dec 18, 2009 7:37:58 GMT 8
Hi Chickita I am sorry this info was for you and I put Annieyokie's name down instead. I should read my closely! Cheers linda
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Post by chickita on Dec 18, 2009 9:42:35 GMT 8
thankz everyone i though it might have something to do with minerals and vitamins, we have a bit of a problem in the area with that, i have my sheep get an injection yearly from my vets mineral supplement due to the soil being low in copper and sulfate. she is low in the pecking order this girl and usualy the last to get at most scraps (the old red hens dont like her at all, but my roo loves her, so he tries to let her eat with him). i might pen her up near the house so i can make sure she is getting what she needs instead of her getting bullied out of things. Did the mag say what missing minerals or vitamins cause this linda? just so i can try get the exact ones they may be missing out on. thanks again everyone for all your help
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Post by annieyokie on Dec 18, 2009 9:43:26 GMT 8
Annieyokie , likes getting confirmation on what she thinks as do we all. Is the magazine called Practical Poultry and is it a monthly or a one off.Ive been looking for more mags .Our local will get them in but I need names .Any others out there know of good publications
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Post by linda29 on Dec 18, 2009 21:21:47 GMT 8
Hi both chicketa and annieyokie The magazine did not say what missing vitamins and minerals were needed, sorry and yes the mag comes out monthly and is about $12.00. You can subscribe and this makes it cheaper. Cheers linda
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Post by annieyokie on Dec 19, 2009 12:45:30 GMT 8
The trouble with minerals is that a deficiency in 1 mineral will lead to a imbalance or deficiency in others .This often applies to some vits as well .Our soils are deficient in many minerals selenium and copper are often feed to live stock .I now always leave a mineral block in both runs so the chooks can help themselves.We have seen in samples we have tested from sick and dead animals many with mineral problems leading to other disease states ,sometimes a lack of natural salt is a problem especially in the hot weather. I recently added unprocessed salt to my chooks water supply .They have 1000lt tank to which i added 1/2 cup of unprocessed salt.Unprocessed salt also has many minerals still in it especially magnesium that we often see problems with.
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Post by rap on Dec 19, 2009 16:12:24 GMT 8
I was told once that poultry farms inject young birds to prevent rough shell.Can't remember with what tho. I thought this was Vit B deficiency.However try a couple of searches on Google rough egg or drop egg. www.ruleworks.co.uk/Poultry/Egg-Drop-Syndrome.htm
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Post by chickita on Dec 19, 2009 22:13:31 GMT 8
thanks everyone, her egg today was normal again, so thats a good thing, the egg pictured in this thread i craked open tonight for the dogs, the shell was strong and the egg was good inside, what type of mineral block(brand) do you use? so i can sorce some. my chooks get to free range everyday on 5.2ac, layer pellets, chaff, veggie scrapes from 3house holds, shell grit, and every 2wks i make up a mash of grated carrot+apple, two tablespoons of cat food(seafood),a teaspoon of garlic, 2scoops of chaff,2scoops of layer pellets, a small amount ground cuttlefish all mixed together with molasses, this mash mixture is shred between the 12 chooks we have.
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