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Post by mick on Nov 12, 2011 11:17:09 GMT 8
Hi guys, I was told by a local breeder that Hydrogen Peroxide in chicks drinking water was pretty good for them. I have been to the Chemist and have some 6% solution. How much do I actually use though. I am sure I was told but I have forgotten.
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Post by jacquie on Nov 12, 2011 20:06:32 GMT 8
why would you wnat to feed the chicks bleach?
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Post by annieyokie on Nov 12, 2011 21:42:45 GMT 8
Its not really a good idea .It may keep the water clean but its not that healthy for every day use . If you had a sick bird and were trying to stop cross contamination it may be ok for a week or so . Very small amounts . You would be better of using colloidal silver that can do no harm .
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Post by mick on Nov 15, 2011 18:28:30 GMT 8
Have been having a read up on it, seems that some people are using it over in the US with good results. Extract By Dr. David G. Williams educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtmlPosted July 17, 2003 (Original title: Hydrogen Peroxide - Curse or Cure?) When it comes to hydrogen peroxide therapy there seems to be only two points of view. Supporters consider it one of the greatest healing miracles of all time. Those opposed feel its ingestion is exceptionally dangerous, and only the foolhardy could think of engaging in such behavior. Before either condemning or endorsing hydrogen peroxide, let's take a real close look at what we're dealing with. If any substance is interesting, it's hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide should really be called hydrogen dioxide. Its chemical formula is H2O2. It contains one more atom of oxygen that does water (H20). By now everyone's aware of the ozone layer that surrounds the earth. Ozone consists of three atoms of oxygen (03). This protective layer of ozone is created when ultraviolet light from the sun splits an atmospheric oxygen molecule (02) into two single, unstable oxygen atoms. These single molecules combine with others to form ozone (03). Ozone isn't very stable. In fact, it will quickly give up that extra atom of oxygen to falling rainwater to form hydrogen peroxide (H202). (Bear with me: all this chemistry mumbo jumbo I'm going through actually will help you understand the importance of hydrogen peroxide.) Another extract Feeding Animals Hydrogen Peroxide In the 1950's, Dr. Reginald Holeman gave cancerous mice hydrogen peroxide in their drinking water. 60 days later their tumors had disappeared. The mice who received hydrogen peroxide in their drinking water, grew much larger and lived twice as long. In the 1980's, Winifred Wirth repeated Dr. Holeman's experiment twice with the same results. Robert Stroud, the Birdman of Alcatraz, healed birds using sodium perborate. Sodium perborate combined with water creates hydrogen peroxide. Any thoughts? Has anyone tried this with 2 sets of chicks? Adding 30 parts per million of hydrogen peroxide to drinking water on farms causes chickens to not get avian flu, egg production goes up, chickens taste better, turkeys weigh more on less feed, turkeys have lower mortality rates, hog meat is leaner and of a higher grade, reduces or eliminates need for antibiotics, increases milk production and butterfat content, decreased bacteria count, less mastitis, etc. In 1985, a dairy farmer began putting hydrogen peroxide in the water for his entire farm. The water on his farm was polluted and mastitis was a problem with his cows. After using hydrogen peroxide for some time, the farmer noticed the improved health of his cows. In April 1988, the butterfat content of his Holstein cows was up 5.3%. Another farmer weighed the milk from every cow after milking, and seen his milk production increase from 6 to 8 pounds, per cow, per milking. Others farmers have reported that bacteria counts have gone down to less than 2,000 per cubic centimeter. When hydrogen peroxide has been used for cattle, an increase in milk production and an increase in butterfat content have been reported. Farmers have also reported less mastitis in their herds. Hog farmers have reported their hogs using less feed and a shorter growing time (as much as 30 days less). Turkey and chicken growers reported increased weight per bird using less feed. A man in Wisconsin said he has had the best reproduction rate of his buffalo by using hydrogen peroxide in their drinking water. Some animal research indicates that when hydrogen peroxide is given orally, it combines with iron and small amounts of vitamin C in the stomach and creates hydroxyl radicals. The rule of thumb is adding 8 oz. to 10 oz. of 35% hydrogen peroxide to 1000 gallons water. Chickens and cows have remained healthy by using 8 ounces of 35% Food Grade hydrogen peroxide in 1,000 gallons of drinking water @ 30 ppm. Hydrogen peroxide application into well water, or city water can best be accomplished by a metering device / injector, which keeps the application more constant and thorough, although manual application works just as well. If you do not have an metering device, start out by using 1 teaspoon of 35% hydrogen peroxide in the animal's drinking water. This same ratio is used for all farm animals: cows, pigs, poultry, sheep, goats, rabbits, birds, etc. Any thoughts? Has anyone tried this with 2 sets of chicks?
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Post by ikbokchook on Nov 15, 2011 22:21:10 GMT 8
Ok, going out on a limb here (with my limited chemistry knowledge! ;D ) But..... I've never seen Ozone turn into peroxide with a bit of rain? Also, the article you've quoted is full of 'Here's how it's great' type stuff with 'legitimate' stories to 'prove' it 'A man in Wisconsin' Who? I'd like to see some hard scientific proof before I would take any of this as beneficial. They 'cured' rats with cancer in the 1950's? Sounds dodgy as to me! I hope I haven't offended you at all, but I'd be very reluctant to put it in my chooks water
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Post by mick on Nov 15, 2011 23:50:37 GMT 8
No I thought it a bit far fetched myself, but thought it was worth a look and a chat. There just seems to be so much on the net about it.
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Post by quambie on Nov 16, 2011 14:29:28 GMT 8
Its easy this guy owns a bleach factory ;D ;D ;D ;D would i try No I cant see how it would make the meat taste better Trev
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Post by jacquie on Nov 16, 2011 20:40:00 GMT 8
mmmmmmmm chickens and cows have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT digestive systems.............and scientifically i cant see how it is good for either of them. the hydrogen peroxide would kill the benificial bacteria in the cows rumen for a start....................
the rainfall h202 sounds like a load of dribble to me, if anything it will form more molecules of ozone O3
bizarre concept
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Post by mick on Nov 17, 2011 21:51:14 GMT 8
No bleach factory here. lol Just thought I would throw it up in the air. I do phone systems and data.
Someone mentioned colloidal silver whtas that all about ?
I normally just use chick raing crumble have great success, sometiimes add a bit of water to it the chicks go nuts for it when it's a bit wet. Anyone use anything else?
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Post by ikbokchook on Nov 18, 2011 12:21:41 GMT 8
I sometimes put a bit of apple cider vinegar in the water.
I think I read somewhere that this is supposed to help with worms and other parasites, but I use it mainly because I'm lazy and it seems to keep the algea down, then I don't have to scrub it out as often! ;D
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