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Post by quambie on Jul 1, 2013 19:52:01 GMT 8
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Post by rangerwa on Jul 1, 2013 22:55:11 GMT 8
ty for the information i did not think i would be able to bring chicks /in to australia /but there was no harm done bye asking /some one that knows you wanted know about incubators i have two a JN12 /which takes 12 eggs full auto /and a hova bator /which takes 60 eggs /self turning / but when bantam ladys go broody i use them theres a new incbator on ebay takes 48 eggs full auto /just over 120$ looks good i will be getting one soon to replace my 60 egg as its getting old now and the loss of heat in winter time when hand turnning drops my hatch rate /so auto turnning the way togo for me rangerwa
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Post by cannakid on Jul 2, 2013 13:29:40 GMT 8
To be honest I would pay just a bit more and by the genuine one for around $200 - $220 they are much better some of the cheap one's are lucky dip if they work well or not. I have given up on the cheap ones and go for R-Com's now.
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Post by quambie on Jul 2, 2013 18:40:08 GMT 8
thanks cannakid i just had a look at them up to $1000,00 for a 50 egg full auto "Outch" they do look to be robust though i will keep it in mind Christmas is closing in fast mate Trev
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Post by cannakid on Jul 2, 2013 20:44:15 GMT 8
When the Aud was high I got mine direct from the UK for half the price they are here . But the guenuine jaonel are a good alternate the cheaper Chinese copies are the hit and miss ones. Greatlander from QLD is close to having a cheaper one soon he makes some good stuff.
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Post by quambie on Jul 3, 2013 18:24:14 GMT 8
you know they always go wrong when you least expect it the one i have /had is around 5 years old just not very good it was over $ 100.00 when i bought it not an expensive one at all as you say you get what you pay for lucky for me i do not need one just yet first the chooks have to get started if you get my drift on another note still not a drop of the wet stuff it looks yuck Trev
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Post by rangerwa on Jul 3, 2013 22:08:06 GMT 8
hi quambie sorry to here your incubator has died /as for rain albany has got it all no stop today all my dams full in danger of the gravel road being was away /1000$ for incubator is to much /if you pay 100/150$ and it last you 5 years 30$ a year and your probly like me only use it when you have no broody hens so 3 to 4 mounths year rest time it sits clean in its box I come from the uk so things like incubators are use more as weather not so good chickens are kept in sheads if you want eggs all year round with heaters /here i have never in 5 years had all my chooks stop laying all ways one or two will keep going rangerwa
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Post by quambie on Jul 4, 2013 17:31:54 GMT 8
good on u rangerwa if you get fed up with that rain you can send it my way i have had 4.5 mill in the last 5 months thought we were going to strike it lucky yesterday but it went on its way down to you by the sounds of it i always get a few eggs but this year is the worst year i have ever had i went down to a couple of eggs a week not good out of ten breeds of chooks or if you like 120 hens and at the moment they are still playing around but its getting better as for the bator i tend to agree with you thats a load of dosh to lay out as you say most of the year its in its box it will as most things do sort its self out Trev
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Post by quambie on Jul 29, 2013 20:14:35 GMT 8
well i did the deed i bought one full auto with timers and all that stuff and i will try with this first lot of eggs if i get them in the post on Wednesday its on now hanging on for its first lot of eggs its JANOEL INCUBATOR 48 egg fully auto new got it for $ 145.00 post included i think its a good buy time will tell any one use them Trev
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Post by cannakid on Jul 29, 2013 20:46:38 GMT 8
No but what I've read about them make sure you have a good thermometer to calibrate it with , some have had good results after getting it set right.
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Post by rangerwa on Jul 29, 2013 22:21:12 GMT 8
my one was spot on when checking it with both /dig/ and alco thermometers i wish you good luck with the new incubator /keep the water /level high as the fan tens to evaporat it faster than expected
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Post by quambie on Jul 30, 2013 9:11:00 GMT 8
Thanks guys I have a cheese making thermometer that`s spot on i will give that a go inside it the water chamber has two compartments and an over flow the reading on it now after a day is 56% with the one side full or was full Trev
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Post by chooky on Jul 30, 2013 9:35:28 GMT 8
Trev,
Have fun with your new toy. I would be happy with 56% humidity. After discussions with CK, I have been running the incubator with a little bit of water and not increasing the humidity for hatching. Work really well. The chicks fluff up a lot quicker and look stronger. CK has been incubating dry and works well for him. I may try that next.
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Post by quambie on Jul 30, 2013 10:53:43 GMT 8
when you look at it the humidity is only to make the shell a bit softer at hatching the hen dose not go out and get herself wet nearing the end of the incubation time she just sits tight and i am told that if you do not turn eggs the chick gets stuck to the shell i have never found this i had to go away once and could not turn then but they were all ok all we are trying to do is to mimic the hen how do they get on the big places do all the trays they have on the racks have turners //and they hatch 100,0000, at a time there is a lot we do not know we take the easy way and that`s good for us i think out of all the heat is the biggest thing as you say it works well for some Trev
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Post by cannakid on Jul 30, 2013 20:28:33 GMT 8
Yes and no the humidity controls the moisture loss out of the egg the most common mistake is having to high humidity which causes the chick to grow too big for the egg and getting stuck and causing DIS , too low and they can't get through the membrane , for my incubators 40 - 50% is best which I can obtain without adding any water But some need a little water others need more . I like to run mine .2 degrees C less than recommended too so at 37.5 C in a fan forced.
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