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Post by pianochook on Mar 13, 2010 3:24:46 GMT 8
that is so cool that your chooks got a house before you got one!! They probably think they're running the show ;D Australia has got extremely strict quarantine regulations. When you arrive at an Australian airport you have to ditch every bit of fruit, meat, dairy etc. and you have to declare absolutely everything organic or you're in big trouble. They've got trained Beagles checking every passenger and their luggage and they find things, believe me. They stopped my mum once because she was using a bag that had PREVIOUSLY contained food They are doing this because Australia is an island with very special fauna and flora, also the agriculture is so important, so they are trying to keep any bugs and diseases out. You even have to make sure your shoes are clean and don't have soil attached- no kidding! If you send over animals (like if you want to bring your pet) they have to stay in quarantine for quite some time - you can see unfortunately it's not so easy to send eggs over check out the Australian quarantine website, you'll be surprised! www.daff.gov.au/aqis/mail/cant-mail
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Post by annieyokie on Mar 13, 2010 10:02:45 GMT 8
Pianochook is right .I had a painted egg (hollow) and it had to be fumigated before I was allowed it back . Once I got raked over the coals once for having a natural skin moisturizer that showed up on their x ray as organic in nature .The let me keep it but I got the 3rd degree. Thanks for the offer we would all have loved some of your eggs but alas we live in Australia
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Post by robin on Mar 14, 2010 12:16:52 GMT 8
well girls, there has to be a way to get around it legally, like what do your government inspectors need to look at before they let it through ? So it may be better to ship a few hens through ? It may be even better to drop a parachute load of fancy chooks down in WA and hopefully they won't see ~~~lol ! I understand pianochook, my brother was sent to Hawaii Island of Oahu (to work ) and had his dog in confines under inspection for about 2-3 months..no snakes can be brought in, Hawaii has no snakes and alot of ground dwelling animals that could be killed by a snake..But a chicken ? What possible harassment could a chook do ? I think if we consult the government and ask what inspections they may need, we shall see what they require. It well may be just a few things we need to do to break through, and I could send you some previously inspected eggs or something, see what you can find out, shall we ? Got my 1st order of fertile eggs today from the state of Utah, hoping to talk to some of you about the "resting period" shipped eggs are supposed to have before you can set them in the 'bator...but you are all fast asleep~ darlings, sleep tight and we will talk again tomorrow...
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Post by robin on Mar 14, 2010 12:25:39 GMT 8
Also, we will try to get back with you all with piccies posted on Photobucket about the happenings in the incubator, and the start of our house building. Gary has been in California checking on our house there we just let out, to a friend of a friend so I think it is safe...(if he cuts on that new kitchen counter !!!! But I have to concentrate on setting up life here. Got loads of compost in, planted climbing peas, have the brooder ready for picking up of the ordered 14 barred rock pullet chicks and 1 cockerel baby on Monday morning which I believe is your Tuesday ;D You are all wonderful to help! Oh, and looked up a few place's in WA and Walpole is beautiful, not a desert at all, those big red gum trees..what a wondrous place you have there..
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Post by annieyokie on Mar 14, 2010 12:51:08 GMT 8
;)I set my eggs 24 hours after I recieve them in the post.Seems to work for me . If you have read our crazy!?!?" .... funny turkey add ".... thread you will know Pianochook, fluffychook ,Ibockchook ,lakelands .duckdiva and a few others have some pretty wild birds ...... so sending a few of yours over toWest Australia to parachute down is not such a bad Idea .Just as long as the military don't shoot them down first.
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Post by pianochook on Mar 14, 2010 16:33:07 GMT 8
Anne, what are you trying to do?!? Creating another monster???! It should work, I hope I don't get arrested under suspicion to plan a terrorist act, but we'd just have to stop the military, it'd be for a good cause We've got our roosters trained and an early warning system set up with them, anyway, and the hens could practice to shoot the eggs out hitting a target. The training phase will evidently cause a bit of a waste of eggs and I suggest not to use fertile ones for humanitarian reasons sorry, just couldn't help it, I'll stop here. Robin, I like your spirit, you don't take no for an answer, do you I live in suburbia and we are not allowed to keep roosters here, but Anne's got lot's of space ;D she was even considering getting a turkey ;D ;D
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Post by lakelands on Mar 14, 2010 17:07:22 GMT 8
Hi Robin. I am seriously thinking about taking on the government...Wouldn't have a clue where to start though....I might have to wait until things slow down at work though. working on retiring in a year or so.
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Post by robin on Mar 15, 2010 1:48:53 GMT 8
Hello all, you are all so much fun ! Seriously, cannot we ask the Australian government what is necessary in order to send live birds and/or fertile eggs ? There has to be a way...else how did any get there in the first place ? Maybe all we need to do is have the hens inspected and held for observation for a time, or something. The government has to allow animals in somehow and must be sensitive to the needs of the animals..must be a way. See if there is any link to what is involved, for example if I wanted to send a hen or a dozen eggs your way~
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Post by robin on Mar 15, 2010 1:54:15 GMT 8
I also rested the eggs 24 hours, large side up on the kitchen counter and marked them so's no one would come along and fry them up or get them mixed with our eggs we sell Then put them in and temp is 90-100 and humidity 40-60 but jumps to 90% every so often, and I have to open a wee portal so humidity can escape. Washington has such high humidity in the first place that I probably do not need the big wet sponge in the incubator after all.. think the high humidity will be so bad ? I worry the wee babies will drown~ So it seems to be getting stable at 50-60% humidity. What do you think about high humidity like that ?
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Post by robin on Mar 15, 2010 6:37:51 GMT 8
www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/15385/98-087a.pdfall I can say is WOW, I got to page 4 and stopped reading. It could well be done, and I would do it all, but then have to have a solid housing with HEPA filtration, and no access from birds or rodents and no doubt sterilized chook feed...and after it all they fumigate with formaldehyde (Poor chookies !) then they hatch the birds wherever they please and will not release them to you for 12 weeks all the while they collect blood to test for so many diseases...crimany ! Seems easier to fly over and drop a few eggs down on parachutes ;D I got my 14 baby barred rocks tomorrow, and the incubator full of welsummers and splash marans is doing fantastic. I wish I could send you some !
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Post by lakelands on Mar 15, 2010 20:03:33 GMT 8
I had a read and not at all surprised. Australian quarantine laws are very strict... It appears to be much more hard work and cost involved in setting up all of the sterile environments for the breeder than it would be worth for them to sell to us..either that or each egg would end up costing a ridiculous amount. You would need to be buying hundreds at a time to make it worth while....Of well I can keep on dreaming
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Post by robin on Mar 21, 2010 0:08:06 GMT 8
Hello all, sorry for not writing. The sun has been out for the last few days, mud drying up and the temp is up to 70 oF (21 oC) and we are working outside like there is no tomorrow. It appears that is true that we cannot send eggs your way, sad. Update on news: Lucille the 10 month old (Buff Orp)pullet has gone broody, and after letting her sit on plastic eggs, I entrusted her with the first 7 fertile welsummers eggs I bought. They have been incubated 9 days now so I stole the eggs from her nest yesterday while she got off to eat, and 4 look developing, and 3 are clear so I marked the clear ones, probably not fertile. I will check them again in another week. She is brooding really well ! Won't get off the eggs for anything ! I have to empty eggs from under her wings, and lift her off to go eat and stretch once a day. And we still have 25 eggs in the incubator doing really well. ;D How's the weather ? Our rain had to go somewhere, Hopefully down to you.
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Post by robin on Mar 21, 2010 8:43:51 GMT 8
hi all, it is storming here again, look at the weather here if you can, it is another monster system coming right in here. I will not complain. I see the Queensland side of Australia is getting whalloped with another Cyclone...so will you get any rain from that system ? Almost all precipitation that lands on the entire United States flys right over our heads here in Washington State. There is some storms and Hurricanes that come up from the SE from Africa, hit the easterly winds here and cause alot of damage. Our winds and storms are in reverse from yours...hope you all get gentle rain soon, good night.
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Post by Duck Diva on Mar 21, 2010 11:45:18 GMT 8
Hi Robin, no we wont get anything out of it, its too far away. The cyclone was downgraded to a rain system today. Good luck with the broody and eggs. Cheers, Wendy
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Post by fluffychook on Mar 21, 2010 19:35:38 GMT 8
Oh for a storm.....I can't remember the last decent storm we have had. The weather forecast is for some showers. I certainly hope it happens this time.
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