Has anyone hear used diatomaceous earth in there chook pens .Iv just ordered some food grade to put in their(the chooks )dust baths .Iv read allot about the stuff and its uses in preventing and killing lice ,fleas etc .I just want it as a preventive and am not sure how much to use . I met people in the past who swore by it overseas but have lost contact .Anyone used it??
Last Edit: Jan 12, 2010 9:19:51 GMT 8 by annieyokie
. This is what it is :oBelow ,I have done some research and you can put it in their dust baths or you can feed it to them and as it doesn't break down it ends up in their dust baths You can only use food grade its also used in the pool filter industry but if that is used with livestock it gets into their lungs Below is some stuff of the net, Im just going to add it to the soil bedding etc,I had hoped someone had used it.
Many “natural” insecticides claim “minimal risk”, however, any chemical in your environment, causes lowered immune systems and leaves us vulnerable to viruses and flu's.
Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth is a “Mother Nature” product that has no harm on the environment, to pets or to people. Diatomaceous Earth is not in fact an earth, it is the fossilized remains of microscopic fossil shells created by one celled plants called Diatoms (melosira presiclandica)
Diatomaceous Earth works by physical action, not chemical, by puncturing the insect’s exoskeleton and absorbing its body fluids, thus posing no harm to warm-blooded life. It is actually an amazing healer for warm-blooded life. Moreover, on any surface, this natural pesticide product has a remarkable repellency factor. As long as it is present, insects tend to stay away, making a serious infestation unlikely. Also, the more it is used, the more an environment is created that tends to make insects feel unwelcome
Ill track down the thread .I got 5 kg and I think I paid $37 plus 9.50 post Its due to arrive soon . I dont know how much I need but all Ive read once you use it its there for good and recycles through the soil .The people I met overseas that told me about it top it up every 3-4 years.
This is a good link on how it can be used ,still does not give amounts . I found on on feeding it to 8000 poultry (don't quite get into that category ) but they had good result's Improved health 80% les deaths ,reduced flies (almost to nill)and no pests . I did talk to someone last night who added !/2 cup to soil in each dust bath/pen areas.And occasionally 1/2 cup to a 25 kg bag of food to work on internal parasites and off course this then goes into the soil to. I think I will try that.Floors first . She says she has no almost no flies and no lice ,flea,mite ,parasite probs. Worth a try .I haven't had any problems yet but we do have pigeons fly in so they could bring something nasty in .At the moment I sprinkle woodworm and garden lime around ,seems to be good . www.shadowridgedonkeys.com/perma_horses.htm
Last Edit: Jan 14, 2010 7:07:46 GMT 8 by annieyokie
WOW! This stuff sounds amazing! Im going to get some too. It does have the dosage down the page. Chickens is 5% of the dry food ration you are feeding them at the time. and full strength to put in nest boxes. So I guess you put 0.05g per 1kg of food . Thats not alot is it?
From the link-
Suggested feeding instructions Adjustments may be made based on your own experience and the weight of the animal. Our DE is GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe by the FDA), so there is no harm of overdose. A basic rule of thumb is 2% of the dry weight of the food It's properties promote digestion by keeping feed particles separate and allowing more of the surface area of the feed to be exposed to the digestion process.
Here are some "dosage" guidelines: Humans 1 heaping teaspoon stirred in cup of water, mixed in food or in anything you like. Children 1/2 to 1 level teaspoon per day.
Kittens 1/2 teaspoon Cats 1/2 to 1 teaspoon
Puppies 1/2 to 1 teaspoon Dogs under 50 lbs. 2 teaspoons Dogs over 50 lbs. 1 tablespoon Dogs over 100 lbs. 2 tablespoons
Cattle 2% by weight of dry ration Calves 4 grams in morning Dairy Cows 2% by weight of dry ration (4 oz. )
Chickens 5% in feed, use at full strength in dusting boxes
Goats 1% in grain, 5% per bushel of feed: up to 50% in T-M salt
Hogs .2% of total feed ration, dust or spray on bedding and animals
Horses 1/2 - 1 cup in daily ration
Sheep 1% in ground grain
Fossil Shell Flour may be fed on a continuous basis to larger livestock for continuous parasite control and mineralization.
Parasite Control: For effective use, the DE must be fed long enough to catch all the newly hatching eggs or cycling of the worms through the lungs and back to the stomach. A minimum of 60 days is suggested at 2% of dry weight of the grain ration. If fecal counts are not zero for worms and ova after feeding DE for 30 days, increase the daily dose. Feeding too small a dose of DE will not give desired results. Increasing the dose, even if greater than the above recommendations, will not harm anyone. Some horses only need a 1/2 cup of DE daily, others might need a full cup.
Hi Guys we used to use the stuff to get shot of caterpillars around the and in the Cape lilac trees they feed on it and it will not go through the gut so they just give up and die good stuff if you have a pest like that. I have not used it for anything other though Trev
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